Tag Archive: SD Connect 4

Benz eCOM DoIP Description

eCOM DoIP Multiplexer for Benz is a diagnostic tool that can replace Xentry Diagnosis VCI. Benz eCOM DoIP works with Xentry, Vediamo & DTS Monaco and support DoIP for latest E and S series.

Many customers confused between Benz eCOM DoIP and Mercedes SD C4 when purchase, CnAutotool would like to share the difference between the two tools and help you get a better idea which one to choose.

Benz eCOM DoIP Description:

1. Supports DoIP protocol

2. eCOM Box Hardware Serial number starts with 2xxxxx

3. Works with Xentry, Engineering programs Vediamo and DTS Monaco.

SD C4 Description:

1. Software Version: V2019.05

2. Hardware Version: OS:2.3 CSD:2.11

3. Support Wireless / Lan Cable Connection.

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Conclusion:

eCOM DoIP: Main for new vehicles, cannot use for DAS\HHT vehicles. K-Line communication may not so stable, need specially setup on any diag sw installation.

SD C4: More popular and universal for Mercedes vehicles. The only limitation is K-Line communication in Vediamo from ver5* Easy to setup. In most cases work as is.

Many thanks for your attention. If you have any better ideas or advice, please comment below. We will check and reply you as soon as possible

 

How to use Sdconnect C4 do Online SCN Coding?

What you can find here:

1. SCN coding compatible hardware SCN connect c4

2. How to use SCN connect c4 to do SCN coding

3. 2. SCN coding importance

1. Question: can clone MB SD C4 support Mercedes online SCN coding?
The answer is yes. Newest MB SD C4 2019.03V / 2018.12 can perform online SCN coding perfectly as long as you have online software account or buy one-time SCN coding service.
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Image: MB SD C4
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Image: Xentry 2019.03V

Source of SCN coding account:
Source 1: MB Online SCN Coding / Online programming 1 Year Account

$2,299

Source 2:

$85
One-time service
1. ) After ordering this service, prepare MB sd c4, car, laptop and TeamViewer.
2.) Send Teamviewer ID and Password to customer service
3. ) The engineer will access to your laptop to authorize SCN coding function.
4. ) After finish, the system will display “The SCN coding sequence has been completed successfully”.

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2. SCN coding importance

The move to SCN coding was *very* important. There are too many configuration items in every ECU now to have someone set options by hand whenever an ECU is changed, or to understand how changes on one device have to be done on other devices. These cars are really very very complex, and unlike your laptop, if something goes wrong can result in fatalities.

There are software dependencies between different ECUs, and actually loading software into ECUs is now needed regularly – and thus so is up-to-date diagnosis equipment and up-to-date firmware disks too. A simple example is an Audio system. If you update the firmware in the COMAND unit the firmware in every other MOST device needs also to be compatible (if you want it to work reliably) and thus they all need firmware updates. If you change one component then all components need to be updated to be properly compatible.

The latest equipment even now uses ethernet to load firmware into some ECUs (so it takes 20 minutes not 20 hours).

Without SCN coding it would take considerably longer to change any control unit, would result in mistaken configurations, and thus the cost of repair (or re-repair) would go up and up as systems got more complicated. SCN coding basically allows the correct configuration to be loaded into the car.

Imagine what could/would happen if you had to “hand code” the airbag controller after replacing it? Would you trust all of your airbags to work after the local mechanic had to set all the options correctly? I certainly would not.

Your comment that “The capital cost of the latest version, plus the monthly subscription, means it is beyond the reach of many smaller independent garages” is just wrong.

If your garage has the skills to deal with the technology (and i’d argue that if they don’t they shouldn’t be doing complex things with the newest vehicles), then it is completely affordable.

If you want to work on older cars, then most independents seem to use a clone machine and use it for limited things.

The EU competition commissioner has previously taken a good look at this market and enforced rules that mean diagnosis equipment (for newer vehicles) is available at sensible prices. This is not true in the rest of the world. Mercedes diagnosis systems in USA are more expensive, and in the far east (and I think Australia) are not available at all to independents.

Sorry to be so contradictory, and in summary, but without SCN coding there would be misconfigurations and un-reliability – possibly dangerous to life – occurring quite regularly. And if you are going to need to work on newer cars, there are very affordable Xentry diagnostics systems – you just need to talk to Mercedes.

SDconnect C4 DAS Fault (1.2)-2.503.9901 (customer solution)

Phingoc in trouble:

The laptop is a Dell D630 with a china SD Connect 4.
Xentry 03/2012
DAS 03/2012

It was all working fine last i used the machine.

So.. I connect the MUX to the car (smart 451), and then the lanwire to the mux and computer. Then i turn on the ignition.

In xentry i choose Smart -> 451 -> Diagnostic -> Das opens
in das: Identify car by control unit. After a few seconds some update thing appears and disappears followed by an error.(see att.) Fault (1.2)-2.503.9901. Cannot connect to car.

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Doesnt work with wire or wireless.

Please help me.

Rocinante Wrote:

Delete the 3 “update” folders in C:\program files\SDconnect toolkit (or rename them).. then perform a repair of your SDNetControl by pressing Start\Programs\Service\Setup SDNetControl .. it will start up and ask what you want to do, select repair.. let it do its thing and then go back and delete/rename the update folders in C:\program files\SDconnect toolkit then REBOOT when its done… that should get you up and running.. it is VERY important to REBOOT after deleting the update folders!!!

Phingoc feedback:

Thank you verry much! Big Grin that fixed the whole problem.

start laptop
Rename update folders
Run setup SdNetControl
The “repair” option wasnt displayed, but it went straight into instalation. No options, but it went automaticaly to instalation :S
Reboot after instalation

Re-delete or Rename update folders after running SDNC setup

Delete setings from the MUX
Reconfigure SDconnect
Start Xentry/das and it worked straight away. Big Grin

Benz eCOM DoIP vs. MB SD Connect C4 Diagnostic Scanner

Look here: What’s the difference between Benz eCOM DoIP diagnostic tool and MB Star diagnostic Mb Star C4 multiplexer?
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In summary,

New car: eCom DoIP
eCom – laboratory\development tool. Most cheap and light. Can’t be used with DAS\HHT vehicles. Need luck with kline communication. Need to be specially setup on any diag sw installation.

Normal: Clone SDConnect C4
SDConnect – workshop\robust tool. Most universal in use. The only limitation is kline communication in Vediamo from ver5* Easy to setup. In most cases work as is.

Good to know:

Actia eCOM DoIP Box Multiplexer Kit supports DoIP for the latest E and S series, and it’s perfect for Mercedes COMAND NTG5, NTG5s1, NTG5s2, NTG5.5

ECOM is the diagnostic and swipe communication interface used by daimler-benz’s production and r&d department. It supports the after sales diagnostic software Xentry, Vediamo, and the Monaco DTS, the exclusive development software, with higher access rights than SDconnect (C4).

ECom supports the CAN/DoIP network, which CAN be used for the diagnosis and brushing of new car audio and video entertainment systems. Vediamo for Mercedes engineers is an engineering software used by Mercedes engineers to develop diagnostic software, that is, Xentry and DAS now in use is developed based on Vediamo and delivered to general after-sales dealers. For this reason, using the Mercedes super engineering version is open to all diagnosis /coding/retrofit/flashing programming features. It is possible to add or reduce SA codes freely without going through VEDOC(the process of the original factory applying for modifying the equipment code), so as to achieve the purpose of modifying the vehicle equipment, such as adding SA500 electric rearview mirror.

Xentry and DAS Developer mode, commonly known as: exploit data engineering version after 2010, has added many restrictions on functions. Therefore, people may encounter that the vehicle version is too new to enter the control unit, or they cannot make any special modifications after entering the control unit. For example, the w204/212 2012 meter may need to be configured in the regional language, or turn on other convenience functions.

The database of diagnosis /coding/retrofit/flashing for the Mercedes engineer version USES the Xentry database, so the Mercedes engineer version is dependent on the Xentry version. As long as the database is new, the Mercedes engineer version can use the V4.00 version on the new model, and compact3 & SDconnect does not support the ODX document. The latest V5.00 supports ODX files with eCom. It is recommended to use eCom with DoIP function, which is faster and more stable.